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Thema: Via und Nvidia Prob Hi Es ist ja bekannt,das die Geforce Karten mit Via zusammen desöfteren Probleme verursachen (3D Games frieren ein,Sys starte ohne ...
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    Hi

    Es ist ja bekannt,das die Geforce Karten mit Via zusammen desöfteren Probleme verursachen
    (3D Games frieren ein,Sys starte ohne Vorwarnungen neu etc..)

    Da ich selber betroffen bin(UT),hab ich mal im Netz gesucht und einen "Beta Fix" von Via gefunden..

    This is a BETA patch only - NOT an official release. If you downloaded this patch anywhere apart from the VIA Arena forums, please visit http://forums.viaarena.com/ for more information.

    VIA Technologies, Inc. takes no responsibility for the use of this patch.

    Thanks for being so patient. Here is a beta patch. I must stress very strongly the word BETA here. This patch has to go through more testing in Taiwan from several departments before it is released officially and in fact will probably end up being a silent install patch in the next version of the 4in1 drivers – that is if further rigorous testing proves that it is in fact a fix to this issue. If you choose to install this patch on your computer, you do so at your own risk and full responsibility yourself. Speaking frankly, normally new fixes, patchs, drivers and the like are never released beta to the public. We do not like to use end users as guinea pig testers so to speak. However, many people in these forums have asked for the details and you have all been very patient and helpful in giving me information so out of respect for you I am making it available as a beta fix. To install it, unzip the file and run the setup.exe Do not run the setup from the compressed folder.

    So what does it do? It closes the RX55 memory register in BIOS. The RX55 register's official name and function is Memory Write Queue (MWQ) timer. The MWQ timer is actually a timing device included in the memory host controller to prevent write data being held in the memory queue too long. After the data has been in the queue too long it times out. This timed out data is then given a higher write request priority. Now that might sound nice – a bit of extra performance BUT the procedure fails when overloaded. 3D games and Win XP put too much load on the memory queuing timer procedure. The nVidia new driver exaggerates the problem even more as the driver enables nVidia cards to use even more memory than previous driver versions.

    So in a nutshell it’s a memory timing problem that only happens when the RX55 register is opened. Some motherboard manufacturers have already released new BIOS that have the register closed. In other instances, this patch is needed.

    One thing I have noticed is that I think some people in this thread are confusing one issue with the issue that I am referring to here. Symptoms I am talking about are the infinite loop error, dropping to desktop in 3D games or spontaneous reboot in 3D games. What I strongly suggest is that you try these trouble shooting suggestions before trying the patch:

    - Load optimized defaults in your BIOS and do not modify memory settings
    - set your memory settings in the BIOS less aggressively and test
    - make sure you have an adequate power supply
    - update your BIOS and test
    - disable or enable AGP fast write and test (this has worked for some people)

    The reason that I make these suggestions is that I think some people are confusing general instability because their systems are being pushed to the max, with this error. For example, if you have a 250watt power supply, 128mb RAM and have all your memory settings at max then you may be asking for trouble – the symptoms may be similar to this issue but it’s not the same. If you still get the issue after gong through these suggestions then try the beta patch (if you want to – remember it is BETA).

    This thread I think has broken a new record in these forums. I am going to lock it but also keep it at the top of the category so that it’s easily available to people as there’s quite a lot of useful information in it. I’ll also start a new thread with this announcement so that no one misses it.


    Weiß jemand,ob dieser Fix auch für das MoBo Abit KT7-Raid in Verbindung mit einer GeforceII Mx 400 funktioniert?
    Ich will mit Beta Testen nicht mein ganzes Sys abschießen

    Greetinx

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    Die Software kannst du im Notfall einfach wieder deinstallieren.

    Ich habe den Pci_Latency Patch drauf der das Problem mit dem Write Qeue mitunter auch beheben soll.

    hab dir den Link ja schonmal im Chat gepostet ..

    http://www.networking.tzo.com/net/software/


    Via und Nvidia .. eine gefährliche Mischung.

    Die restlichen Links haben keine Verbesserung gebracht ?

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    Hi Tech

    Ne,sorry,aber die anderen besprochenen Tipps und Links haben leider nix gebracht.

    Greetinx

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    Hmmm ....

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    Hi SSUltra ,

    vielleicht hilft Dir dieser LINK weiter ?

    VielErfolg!

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    Muss ich mich auch betroffen fühlen? Ich nutze seit jeher einige VIA-Treiber, aber bislang hatte ich nie Probleme damit und meiner GF2. Den Latency-Patch kenne ich und auch die Auswirkungen, das System ist ein P3-650/MVP3/ATI/Sound-Onboard , bei mir ein K6-2/MVP3/GF2/DMX1024.

    Worau muss ich denn genau achten, um Kandidat für den Patch zu werden???

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